King Jingaling
May 16 2008, 12:48 AM
1: I bet every jiggy is going to be reduced to an DK Banana Barrel fron DK64. It will be just sitting there in some room and you have to "jump into it" to be transported into some challenge arena involving the vehicle you're currently in. Yaaaawwwnnnn and repetitive!
2: Racing games will be fun I'm sure and will probably depend on how you built your vehicle but I bet experienced games will quickly figure out that vehicle parts A, B and C will allow you to finish every challenge in like 10 seconds and then we'll end up finishing the game with no challenge at all
3: The whole thing sounds like I'm playing Episode 1 Pod Racer where I get to customise and upgrade my vehicles through out the game to perform better. I don't want to do that thanks!
4: Multiplayer will no doubt solely involve vehicles, this could be either REALLY good and fun or REALLY crap. I rekon the way Rare's been going lately its going to be crap.
5: To a lot of people who played the original, they probably wont consider this to be a true sequel to the originals simply because every video and screenshot is going to have vehicles in it. It makes you think that this is just a spin off game
Rare, it might be a good idea to trim back on these developments and LISTEN to the people who are going to buy this game. How bout 50% classic platformer and 50% vehicles!!
Mako the Irrelevant
May 16 2008, 12:59 AM
It could go either way, from what we've observed so far. I have no doubt that the game will be excellent, Rare has yet to let me down even after all these years of supposedly 'mediocre' games.
My biggest qualm would have to be that of the vehicles... I just fear the nostalgia as well as the classic, epic level designs will be cut down so much. I as well, would of prefered a classic platformer with many new and exciting moves, such as Tooie Provided. I just foresee Kazooie as being a bird in the backpack now with all these new features.
The transformations seem to of been done away with, the classic boss battles, etc. I have faith in Rare, but one must admit, this is mildly disappointing. But only time will tell, the game will be top-notch, given not what we expected.
Red the Rhino
May 16 2008, 01:10 AM
The game IS about 50% platforming 50% vehicles.
Rare confirmed it.
This is not a racing game, every jiggy will NOT be like that, and actually play the damn thing before going "Ohznoz, dey messed uP me BanJO, Rarez is teh suxorz!"
conker_re
May 16 2008, 01:24 AM
This game is going to be great Rare has yet to fell me there hasn't been a Rare game that has disappointed me ( besides Banjo-Pilot. ) I don't think the game will be easy to pass and what you said about how you get the jiggies King Jingaling sounds pretty false to me.
billyandrocky
May 16 2008, 10:27 AM
Red, Rare said roughly 80% vehicles and 20% platforming
banjosrevenge
May 16 2008, 08:01 PM
QUOTE(billyandrocky @ May 16 2008, 10:27 AM)

Red, Rare said roughly 80% vehicles and 20% platforming
it just says 80% vehicles and 20% on foot. who to say than being in a vehicle isn't platforming?
flame ofdark
May 16 2008, 08:06 PM
QUOTE(banjosrevenge @ May 16 2008, 04:01 PM)

QUOTE(billyandrocky @ May 16 2008, 10:27 AM)

Red, Rare said roughly 80% vehicles and 20% platforming
It just says 80% vehicles and 20% on foot. Who's to say that being in a vehicle isn't platforming?
Watch the videos and say that again

Well.... yes in all honesty you can still call it a platformer but with far different mechanics/methods than the original Banjo games thrived on (hence,
different, hence, not the Banjo we were waiting for [no suggestions that this can't be good though, just simply stating we weren't waiting years to hear about vehicles] ).
Radski
May 16 2008, 08:19 PM
After accessing my IE the other day I saw a link to the new Banjo game and promptly clicked the link, with my senses fully stimulated, this was something I have waited on for many many years now. I am now 35 years of age and played many iterations of the game numerous times on many different machines, after the web page had loaded up (Gamespot) the first thing that struck me was the name..esp.. NUTS AND BOLTS, UH OH, cue a little pine and whimper as this was it I thought this is gonna make my day, a video first of the successor to the classic platformer that many had regarded better than Mario 64 myself included. Even though Mario 64 was a truly class game with so many fantastic elements Banjo 1&2 had it all and more plus humour. Then it happened...on loading up the video my heart SANK Deeper than the Titanic.......
This was the end of mine and millions of other fans` love affair with the once beautiful franchise, they decide the way forward is to collect vehicle parts and custom build a transport machine of differing types to get you around the levels, no no no no this just isn`t right and is certainly not what this classic should become, a 3D Automania (Spectrum 48k, Google it). RARE decided and to quote “Need to Push the game to the next Level” BOLLOX!!!! My first response was and still is, THIS IS, AND HAS ALWAYS BEEN AND ALWAYS SHOULD BE CLASSIC PLATFORMING ACTION PERIOD!!!.
RARE I feel so strongly about this I don`t normally post on these forums but I am absolutely gutted to the core to see what you are doing to the game, this game should be 10% Vehicles 90% Platforming....it should be a little bit on the side shall we say and not a major part of it. Now I know that so many fans feel the same way I have read thousands of posts expressing their dismay and frustration about where you are taking the game, DON`T do this guys...you talk about a new fan base well prepare to lose most of your old if you continue down this road. Take time out and understand your fans and their views WISE UP!!!!.
This is not a 50/50 split amongst fans this is distraction on a MAJOR scale...Do the right thing RARE, give us what we want, I myself and millions of others are begging you..
flame ofdark
May 16 2008, 08:51 PM
Your plea is pointless Radski, unfortunately... they've done too much to go back now.. all we can do is hope for the best.
lambchop42
May 17 2008, 07:19 PM
This game looks JUST like new super mario bros
billyandrocky
May 17 2008, 08:21 PM
^ What are you talking about?
Radski
May 21 2008, 12:16 PM
THE FANS ARE LEAVING IN THEIR DROVES!!!!!!...Last one out put the light off this is just a tiny tiny fraction of what everyone is saying ..
frostyshorts
well, this looks disappointing to me at least. I mean, come on, what happened to the fun platforming and amazing levels to explore concept of banjo and kazooie? I agree with skcrizz, it was great the way it was, and this fan isn't happy about the new changes.
xXHackettXx
I dunno what to think, i'm kind of disapointed...
lman013
I think this game will be great to gamers who have never played the previous games, but to recent players of the N64 Banjo.... they will be let down.
SevenSorrows
This game won't be as good as the N64 games, they were classic. I'll probably rent this game first, but let me ask a question. If Rare is relying heavily on open-world exploration and vehicle customization as a big part of the game, why not just make a completely different game! I agree GazHill, this is NOT what Banjo Kazooie is about.
GazHill1987
The reason i bought an xbox 360 was because of Perfect Dark Zero, i was expecting the same amazing quality from Rare as with its previous games, but i was let down by it and now this about BK.Since when was Banjo Kazooie about vehicles. Another indication Rare have lost it?
Ohio_Sux
I have a bad feeling about this game...it wont be as good as the N64 ones
SevenSorrows
Seriously? C'mon Rare, I mean sure, the vehicle creation sounds fine, but not for a Banjo Kazooie game! I REALLY hope this game is similar to the N64 games where your goal is to collect jiggies and not race around worlds with stupid vehicles. I was so excited to hear that a new Banjo game was being made only to find out that its nothing like the original games. THATS WHAT WE WANT RARE, NOT NUTS AND BOLTS!
nugXL
what the crap..... well so far it seems like they're doing a great job of ruining the amazing genius that the old Banjo-Kazooi games had, which video games are lacking now a'days.
I could post another million of these at least WAKE UP RARE
Red the Rhino
May 23 2008, 01:45 PM
I not actually play the (*******) thing before throwing a ######fit at the greatest platform makers next to Nintendo. Go play your n00b-ass Halo while being a pussy because Rare put everyones fav Bear and Bird in a vehicle.
I can't wait till Rare releases a demo so all you ******s can go, Wow, this is fun! Or so you can keep crying and get a #*** shoved up your a-hole.
Radski
May 23 2008, 02:23 PM
Red WTF.......can I have some of what your on...
Red the Rhino
May 23 2008, 07:04 PM
QUOTE(Radski @ May 23 2008, 09:23 AM)

Red WTF.......can I have some of what your on...
For five bucks.
###### works good.
billyandrocky
May 23 2008, 07:11 PM
yeah, red. I hate driving games, I kinda have a good reason not to like it at all.
Ricky
May 25 2008, 04:36 PM
QUOTE(billyandrocky @ May 23 2008, 02:11 PM)

yeah, red. I hate driving games, I kinda have a good reason not to like it at all.
But you haven't even played it yet.
Linkman
May 25 2008, 05:37 PM
Look, at the end of the day, this is a Rare fansite, so you're obviously all fans. I can understand some of you are worried based on what you've heard, but just stop complaining and give the game a chance, you're not really being very helpful, and basing a lot of your claims on either partial, misleading quotes or speculation.
billyandrocky
May 26 2008, 01:19 AM
QUOTE(Ricky @ May 26 2008, 04:36 AM)

QUOTE(billyandrocky @ May 23 2008, 02:11 PM)

yeah, red. I hate driving games, I kinda have a good reason not to like it at all.
But you haven't even played it yet.
I've never played a driving game and liked it. I find them boring, tedious, and hard to control. If I wanna go fast or make things blow up, I play Sonic or Gunstar Heroes instead. So quite simply. If I hate other games of this kind, Why should I give this one a chance? Cause it's Rare? Don't automatically trust a company because you grew up with them. (Using Sonic as an example YET AGAIN.)
Ricky
May 26 2008, 04:15 AM
QUOTE(billyandrocky @ May 25 2008, 08:19 PM)

QUOTE(Ricky @ May 26 2008, 04:36 AM)

QUOTE(billyandrocky @ May 23 2008, 02:11 PM)

yeah, red. I hate driving games, I kinda have a good reason not to like it at all.
But you haven't even played it yet.
So quite simply. If I hate other games of this kind, Why should I give this one a chance? Cause it's Rare? Don't automatically trust a company because you grew up with them. (Using Sonic as an example YET AGAIN.)
But there's never been a game like this before...
It's not like Sonic, and it's more than just driving and I'm almost positive there's more to it than "go fast or make things blow up". Show me a game that's like Nuts and Bolts and tell me you've played it, then we'll talk.
And why shouldn't I trust Rare? They've released so many games back to back that made me piss my pants. I trust them because I've grown to love their games, and only once have they disappointed me . They still have my trust. What do you expect out of a Rare forum?
Radski
Jun 3 2008, 07:24 PM
Bring Back the Doctor!!!!!!
Gregg Mayles you can kiss my arse with your 80% Vehicle crap...
Gamespot one (*******) site, just one
Banjo Kazooie 95%
Banjo Tooie 96%
Banjo 3 NUTS to make this game what it is..70% it they`re lucky
I love RARE but they piss me off with their ######...
If I want to Build ###### I`ll play an RTS on my PC...
Mr.Patch
Jun 3 2008, 08:03 PM
QUOTE(Radski @ Jun 3 2008, 07:24 PM)

Bring Back the Doctor!!!!!!
Gregg Mayles you can kiss my arse with your 80% Vehicle crap...
Gamespot one (*******) site, just one
Banjo Kazooie 95%
Banjo Tooie 96%
Banjo 3 NUTS to make this game what it is..70% it they`re lucky
I love RARE but they piss me off with their ######...
If I want to Build ###### I`ll play an RTS on my PC...
Jeez! It's like your fingers have Tourrets Syndrome.
But anyways:
A.) What are you even talking about?
B.) Most everyone here knows that you don't like the new turn Rare has taken with Banjo, so the stings in your comments are gone.
I would also suggest,
maybe, being calm and respective toward the creators of Banjo-Kazooie. I understand how
horrible it is that the creators of a franchise have the right to better their franchise at any time. But just because you can't handle it doesn't mean you should curse them (specifically Gregg Mayles) out and filth up the place.
Radski
Jun 3 2008, 08:17 PM
Jesus when you feel as strongly as I do about this then maybe you ...would, what bull###### was that...
Filthy up the place or some bollox..lol...this is a forum where ppl come to express opinion no matter how strong or how constructive, who are you to protest how I vent myself...ANSWER pls???
I`m not being derogatry to you am I ?? MR PATCH
Mr.Patch
Jun 3 2008, 08:32 PM
QUOTE(Radski @ Jun 3 2008, 08:17 PM)

Jesus when you feel as strongly as I do about this then maybe you ...would, what bull###### was that...
Filthy up the place or some bollox..lol...this is a forum where ppl come to express opinion no matter how strong or how constructive, who are you to protest how I vent myself...ANSWER pls???
I`m not being derogatry to you am I ?? MR PATCH
I feel just as strongly
for the game as you feel
against the game.
But I'm not typing up things like "bull######, ######, (*******), or (BLEEP)."
Just be
somewhat constructive with your criticism. Don't use nonconstructive vocabulary like that listed above. Things like that will drive your point nowhere. If you want to be taken seriously and not as a troll, then be calm and collected and use your brain to get your point across, not trash talk. Or implied trash talk, whatever you call using "#" over and over.
Radski
Jun 3 2008, 08:38 PM
Ok ..........I agree but one last thing.....What a load of (****) (BLEEP) (BLEEP) (BLEEP) (*******) ###### bollox are they doing to my game...

Ok I`m calm now it`s out of my system...... Being constructive is what I`m all about now
Anyone for tea and a quick chat about the new peice of software being developed by Rareware...fnaa fnaa fnaa
Ricky
Jun 3 2008, 08:46 PM
QUOTE(Radski @ Jun 3 2008, 03:38 PM)

Ok ..........I agree but one last thing.....What a load of (****) (BLEEP) (BLEEP) (BLEEP) (*******) ###### bollox are they doing to my game...

Ok I`m calm now it`s out of my system...... Being constructive is what I`m all about now
Anyone for tea and a quick chat about the new peice of software being developed by Rareware...fnaa fnaa fnaa
Ahh, sarcasm. The language of the gods.
Maybe if you didn't make yourself look like a complete arse all the time with your posts, then maybe people wouldn't have to treat you like a kiddy. Stop acting like one and we will.
Mako the Irrelevant
Jun 3 2008, 09:01 PM
Take these folks advice Radski. If not, well the ice just keeps on getting thinner on the way to the place you're headed.
We're all a bit worried as to how things will unfold. No one will deny it, but being a blathering fool about it, does little to drive anything.
Radski
Jun 3 2008, 09:44 PM
For Christ sakes I was being serious....You Yanks just don`t get it do you lighten up will you ..FFS
It`s like the Gestapo on here... indirectly run by bigots who are backed by admin ops curiously constructively slating ppl for having a negative opinion....Shall I just say YAY RARE are Great all their crap games from the last 8 years are Great aswell.....
I`m as entitled to my opinion as the next person....Of all the constructive posts I have placed on here I get no response from the gestapo only when I fire a negative one out....Come on guys lighten up.
Mako the Irrelevant
Jun 3 2008, 09:57 PM
We're lightened up as is, I'd call us the Diet Coke of forums. You seem like a smart fellow, why express yourself like such a tool?
Gestapo? That's adorable, and makes little to no sense with the problem at hand. I'll allow you to take some time off. Perhaps say three days, maybe you can calm down and become a constructive member of the community after some thought as to what went on here.
We have no problem with your negative opinions, alas we do have a problem with how you conduct yourself among us. Take it easy, if you choose to post as a guest your IP will be banned permanently, just calm down, and take the three day suspension to think things over.
Thanks, and enjoy our wonderful Death Fun Camps.
Radski
Jun 8 2008, 04:34 AM

......ello ...... good to be back, the use of the word tool is very english (and funny)....anyways look I apologise to anyone I have offended can we get back to the topic...
Anthrax
Jun 15 2008, 10:46 PM
There better be (*******) guns or I'm gonna be a little ticked..
M1A1 Herre I commme.
Mr.Patch
Jun 16 2008, 02:39 AM
Will there be guns on vehicles? Yes. We've seen that in action.
Will there be guns while Banjo's making his rounds on foot? I don't think so. Kazooie will have the wand/wrench thing going on, but no semi-automatics for Banjo.
Hewitt
Jun 16 2008, 05:32 PM
I don't think it'll be a poor game, but from what I saw of the video, I would like the next one to show more platforming action as a way to ease fears that the game will bomb.
Anthrax
Jun 16 2008, 08:41 PM
QUOTE(Mr.Patch @ Jun 15 2008, 09:39 PM)

Will there be guns on vehicles? Yes. We've seen that in action.
Will there be guns while Banjo's making his rounds on foot? I don't think so. Kazooie will have the wand/wrench thing going on, but no semi-automatics for Banjo.
SHEYAA! some major tank action!
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